James Brown’s memoir The Los Angeles Diaries is one of those books that writers hear other writers discussing with reverence, and that’s how I discovered it in 2004. This River, out now, serves as a postscript to The Los Angeles Diaries, and it equals its precursor in both skill and vision.
James Brown’s prose is tight and spare, which contrasts starkly with the chaos of his life, including the suicides of both his siblings, and his own battles with alcoholism and drug addiction.
Each chapter from The Los Angeles Diaries and This River is a stand-alone piece. The layering of chapters—and now of books—delivers a staggering panoramic perspective.
Of This River, Tim O’Brien writes, “A beautifully crafted and intensely moving book. Without artifice or pretension—without false moves of any sort—James Brown goes after the biggest literary game: death, love, children, degeneration, hopelessness, hope.”
Jim and I met when we discovered that our books had the same release date of March 1st. I was already a fan of The Los Angeles Diaries and had emailed him long before to tell him. We soon decided to team up and do readings together, as well as simply support each other through the publication process. In this spirit, he agreed to answer my questions.
In The Los Angeles Diaries, after a scene with your father, you write:
I’ve mined the territory before, if not this particular moment then something like it, and I’ve done it so often that I find myself confusing what actually happened with how I imagine it. In trying to sort between autobiography and fiction, or invention, and then trying to put the pieces together so that they make some kind of sense, I’ve come to think that the truth as it occurs isn’t of much use to me other than, say, as a catalyst for a story.
As a writer, I’m curious about this passage. I’d just like you to comment further. Why memoir over fiction? Or not. You’ve written fiction as well. How do you distinguish the two, etc?
Memory is fallible. It is also non-sequential. I can’t recall the past precisely as it may have occurred, especially whenever it is I’m writing about took place many years earlier. But I can recall more than its essence, and what I’m after when I write memoir is an emotional truth that, I hope, transcends the straight, literal experience. Memoir is not journalism anymore than it is fiction. At the same time there are lines you simply don’t cross in memoir that you would or might in fiction. You must tell your story, to the best of your abilities, as honestly as you can in memoir. It’s presumed you’re telling the truth in this genre, and you owe it to your reader to uphold that presumption, or promise. To blatantly do otherwise is to lie, and that’s the art of fiction, not memoir.
We’ve discussed a little about subject matter—whether you choose what to write, or whether it chooses you. I’m wondering if you could speak on this topic?
I believe the material chooses the writer, if the writer allows it. You write about what you care most about, what you know most about, what you think most about, the memories that haunt, your obsessions, your shortcomings, your successes and failures, and how all these experiences and feelings have shaped how you see yourself and others, particularly those you love most in this crazy world.
You come from a working class background. You and your brother and sister chose to pursue careers in art. Can you speak about this?
I’m not sure. I think my brother set the pace when he chose acting. His passion was contagious, though our mother started him on this path when he was just a kid. My brother, like my father and sister, were also big readers, and I think I originally began writing to please my brother, since I looked up to him so much, and soon enough it became a passion, which is a good thing, because as a teenager I’d also developed a strong interest in crime, the easy money, the rush that comes from robbing and stealing, as well as drug and alcohol habits.
Do you envision a third memoir? Or is that impossible to know?
I do envision one more memoir, but I can’t, and won’t, return to the dark places of my first two. This third one I want to be about getting and staying sober. I want to show another side, a better one built around this wonderful gift I’ve been given in sobriety, a second shot at life.
Did you have a structure in mind for your memoirs or did the pieces collect and build into a cohesive whole?
I had a structure in mind, but it wasn’t sequential. I wanted to write about only those events in life that affected me most, the memories I couldn’t shake, that I’d lived with for years. I felt if I didn’t write The Los Angeles Diaries, if I didn’t just come out and tell the truth about the things that haunted and troubled me, of the ugly person I could be and had become in large part because of my addictions, that I could never move forward. The book has a beginning, middle and end, just not in that order.
Your prose is, like O’Brien points out, without artifice or pretension. I’m curious about what writers you admire—and which writers influence your work.
Actually I’m a big fan of Tim O’Brien, and his work, particularly The Things They Carry, has had a strong influence on me. I also admire Flannery O’Connor, Chekhov, Raymond Carver, and Hemingway.
You have quite a history with the publishing industry. Can you give an overview of your experiences and comment on the industry?
The industry has been good to me, though I could always complain that my career could and should be better. But what’s the point of whining? “Less successful” writers would call me ungrateful. “More successful” ones would think I’m jealous. The point is, it’s the process of writing that defines success, not publication. You know when you’re doing good work, and when you’re on a roll, a streak, there’s your real pleasure. And it doesn’t get any better than that.
Jim and I will be reading at Skylight in Los Angeles on March 16th at 7:30 p.m. and at Vroman’s in Pasadena on March 24th at 7:00 p.m.
Victoria – Great, great interview. Jim, I appreciate your answers here. I agree that writing memoir can be tough when you’re trying to be true to the facts. The past, what happened – all of that is subjective. But I really appreciate what you say about just doing your best to honor it the best you can. And, I mean, if Tim O’Brien (**swoon**) is endorsing your book, I’ll need to add it to my to-read list.
I wish I could make this reading. I hope it’s a big success.
Thanks for your kind comments, Gloria. I really appreciate your taking the time to write them.
Thanks, Gloria! I wish you were here as well. I’d love to meet you in person. Some day…
Oh man, I thought this was a lost interview or something with the OTHER James Brown…you know, the soul-singing, PCP smoking one.
I was not, however, disappointed to find that it was not. I haven’t read James’ book yet, but have heard good things, and after reading this interview, it’s definitely moved up my list.
Great interview, Victoria. I love finding out what makes other writers tick.
Thanks to both of you.
Thanks, Brian. I didn’t think about that connection when posting the interview, but what a hook!
I thought the same thing. I’ll bet Mr. Brown has never had anyone say this to him. 🙂
Yes! The material chooses the writer. My first novel was NOT what I expected. We can argue about choice, but I NEVER would have chosen to write this second one, which is nearing completion. Maybe next time?
If Mr. Brown shares Tim O’Brien’s literary company, I’ll have to check him out.
Best of luck to you both with the recent releases!
I completely agree! Thank, Ronlyn.
Hey Gloria (and Brian),
Yeah, I’ve been living in the shadow of the “real” James Brown all my life. Lots of teasing and some good laughs along the way.
I picked up The L.A. Diaries in a bookshop precisely because I thought ‘fuck, the guy from Rocky IV has written a book about living in America…’
Also the cover looked really cool.
Turned out to be one of the best non-fiction books I read last year— and that was the year I read The Fight for the first time.
Thanks, James. “One of the non-fiction books” you’ve read last year is one big compliment, and I appreciate it.
James,
Sorry for the typo. I meant “one of the BEST non-fiction” you’ve read in the last year as one heck of a compliment. Thanks.
Haha, when I received your comment this morning I panicked and thought that was what I had written… Which would have been something less of a compliment.
Victoria, I enjoyed this interview, but I’m commenting mostly to tell you that I absolutely loved This Vacant Paradise. I practically have House of Mirth memorized, which made me compelled but almost nervous to read your book, and I got so much pleasure from the relationship between the two. I loved the parallels and echoes, and I loved the divergence, not to mention the prose. I’m recommending it all over the place.
Zoe, Thank you so much. I can’t tell you how happy your comment makes me. It’s like a big starburst of happiness in my chest.
Great interview. I’m in the middle of reading (finally) Reality Hunger, which talks exhaustively about the breakdown of memoir and novel, so the discussion about that was particularly interesting. And my God, the “more successful”/”less successful” stuff never ends…
VP, your book is on my stack, and I’m excited for it.
I keep hearing about Reality Hunger. I hope you’ll post your thoughts–or let me know via email.
Thanks, Greg.
Great interview. Thanks, Victoria, for helping spread the word. Can’t wait to read the new book, Jim. Always so cool when a friend who’s a great writer has a new one out. Looking forward to it.
Thanks, Rob. Hope our paths cross at the LA Times Book Festival.
I just finished “The Los Angeles Diaries” it was recommended by EOPS counselor at Crafton Hills College. I have just turned forty and am going back to school and my dream is to write. To release the Demons that hold me back from makng a better life. your truth and honesty are inspiring to me. Thank you for a wonderful ,truthful read. I hope to one day day be able to take a class with you. My counselor Lou-Rie says you teach at Cal State san Bernardino. I hope to get that far. Like yours my story can be called common at times but it stiffles me and holds me back, the life i’ve lived , my parents those around me. i am scared, I am not a perfect person. I hope one day i will inspire others as you have done for me. Thank you, Jacqueline Heredia